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Posted 2/10/2011 11:52 AM


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Note: On page 25 of this thread all the reviews and comments on particular scenes posted to that time have been compiled into a single "encyclopedia" post for reference purposes.

 

This thread originally referred to just "reluctance and non-consent." The criteria were then expanded to include scenes that evoke "lesbian taboo," which is more broad. Here's how I described the concept on a  “Lesbian Taboo” thread (which itself distilled the relevant discussions on a lengthy "How to Watch GFF" thead):

There are essentially two kinds of g/g porn film: Those in a world where there is no taboo against lesbianism and/or men don’t exist; and ones where the taboo is in force. Lesbian taboo depicts a girl or woman experiencing psychological turmoil from doing something she feels is "wrong" or "not done" by good girls like herself - tasting the "forbidden fruit" of taboo lesbian sex! Usually for the first time, or nearly so.

 

Note that the turmoil can exist even if the girl is willing. Importantly however, turmoil caused by relationships, workplace tensions, "cheating," age differences, etc. does not meet this criteria. It applies exclusively by the guilt, shame, fear, nervousness, etc. girl feels from violating (what remais of) the homosexual sex taboo. Those other stresses may be present also, but they are not substitutes for this one.

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Original introduction:

 

Are you one of those pervy lezlovers who savors the fantasy of a predatory, lecherous older lesbian exploiting the innocence of a reluctant, nervous, young first timer? And the related “non-consent” fantasy, where one woman is placed by another into a position where she must choose between two undesireable alternatives, one of which is lesbian sex?

 

If so – Shame! Shame! – and this thread’s for you! Please share scenes here that meet the criteria.

 

Of course, the fantasy also requires the reluctant or non-consensual one to gradually find herself moaning “Yes! Yes!” either because “depraved girl-girl sex" is a “dark desire hidden even from herself,” or because she is “betrayed by her traitor body” and becomes aroused. Therefore, your pervyness is reduced from 1st degree to something much less, and you may not even have to go to hell when you die. So go ahead, savor and enjoy the scenes described and discussed below.

 

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ETA: Fans of this thread may also appreciate a "Scenes capturing a girl's first time with another girl IRL" thread.

 

 

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Posted 2/10/2011 12:11 PM


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Hot newer scene: Aubrey Belle and Rebecca Bardoux in Mother-Daughter Exchange Club 17

 

Dudes, I don’t even know what the plot is – presumably the younger girls mom pimped her out to the older lech – but the role-playing once they’re together alone is hot hot hot!

 

The younger lays there passively, her hands at her side pressing down onto the sheets, while the older caresses, kisses, gradually undresses and ultimately performs lewd lesbian sex acts upon the sweet darling’s tender young body.  

 

Naturally, the previously-innocent young blonde gradually becomes aroused.  Eventually  -moving as if with a mind of their own - her lips return the older woman’s kisses, and her hands move to gently stroke her body. When the older woman performs the lewdest act of all – actually placing her mouth on her partner’s girl-sex! – the sweet young thing is shocked to discover herself on the brink of soul-shattering orgasm, and then – over the brink!

 

More shocking, she finds herself willing, nay eager, to return the sexual favors, and is excited anew by the arousal and orgasms her actions generate in the other.

 

In sum, it is a shocking and depraved episode that violates societies deepest taboos and all norms of decency – and is hot as hell!

 

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My next several posts with good scenes are copied from other past threads.

 

Please add your own!

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Posted 2/10/2011 12:21 PM


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Some very nice non-consent/reluctance role-playing in Field of Schemes 8:

 

Ariella Ferrera & Lux Kassidy & Tori Black

Older Ariella (a college coach or prof) is putting the moves on Lux, a sweet young coed, and “catches” Tori who has broken into her house as part of a sorority initiation (or something). Apparently Lux is implicated also, and so Ariella proceeds to show both of them who’s the boss, starting with ordering them to kiss and fool around with each other on the bed.

 

This is a “non-consent” but without much “reluctance”: While the younger girls don’t appear to be gg virgins, they didn't exactly volunteer for this sexual encounter either. They are indifferent about the semi-forced sex (at the start), not "freaked out." Of course, before long they are “betrayed by their traitor bodies,” as in all good non-consents. The scene works well.

 

(It has some nice strap-on dominance by the older woman also - not my bag, strap-on fans will be pleased.)

 

Juliana Jolene & Bobbi Starr

Juliana is in charge, and is trying to force Bobbi to rat-out another girl who caused a problem for the coach. Her tool of coercion is semi-forced sex. This soon shifts to a different tool, which is holding back the stimulation Bobbi craves. It’s a well conceived situation given that Bobbi’s not very credible in a “reluctant” role.

 

Allie Haze & Magdalene St. Michaels

GFF doesn't hold back on the non-consent/reluctance themes in this one. Allie has underwhelmed scary big-boss Maggie in a college admissions interview, and the woman who is her sponsor requests a few minutes to regroup. The pair retire to a bedroom where the sponsor all but says “You have to suck it up, and fuck Maggie to get in.”

 

The sponsor leaves, and a few minutes later big, intimidating Maggie enters. Allie is freaked out and plays the non-consent role very well. Eventually she is “betrayed by her traitor body,” of course, and performs well when her exploiter demands return service (beginning with pushing an erect nipple into the young woman's mouth).

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Posted 2/10/2011 12:23 PM


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Aristide wrote: "Are you one of those pervy lezlovers who savors the fantasy of a predatory, lecherous older lesbian exploiting the innocence of a reluctant, nervous, innocent young first timer?"

Yes!  Yes!  Yes!

"Hot scene: MDEC, Aubrey Belle and Rebecca Bardoux in Mother-Daughter Exchange Club 17"

 

I'm half-sold, Aristide!  You certainly make it sound hot, but I'm also remembering what you wrote in your review of "Lesbian PsychoDramas 02," where you stated: "As a big non-consent fan I was blown away. Frankly, I’ve never seen anything on film that comes close, much less two scenes on the same DVD."

 

Well, I then purchased and watched that same video, and wasn't all that impressed.  If the older women in a scene don't come across as seriously attracted to the pretty younger women under their control, then it isn't going to work.  At least in Lesbian PsychoDramas 02, I never felt that either Julia Ann or Dyanna Lauren cared the slightest bit for the pretty younger women they were supposed to be desiring.

 

 

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Celeste Star & Wenona on WSW 63:

 

This time it’s more a perfect seduction, but still meets the quid pro quo non-consent criteria, and the “victim” is equally frightened and reluctant, a “virgin” to girl-girl sex who convincingly sustains her confusion well into the sex.

 

Indeed, although Celeste’s reluctance is eventually displaced by arousal, the psychological stress never entirely disappears; each new step along the path from first touch to last cuddle represents just one more nervous “out-of-body” moment in which the girl really can’t seem to believe what’s happening to her. The first time she moans, the sound appears mostly an unconscious reaction triggered more by disbelief than sensual pleasure. Although it becomes clear that pleasure is (increasingly) mixed in, the “this can’t be happening to me” quality never entirely disappears from her vocalizations. 

 

It’s an extraordinary performance . . .

 

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Some others I've noted in the past:

 

Anon and I will have to agree to disagree on this one:

Lesbian Psychodramas 2 -  Jessica Bangkok, Aimee Addison & Dyanna Lauren; and Rayveness with Brooke Lee Adams.

 

LS 29 - Persia Monir & Hayden Night

Apparently it's harder than we think for girls to pull off reluctance. Hayden did it well here. The sex eventually becomes fully consensual, but that's OK. Good role playing also adds to the girls' excitement and enjoyment of their sex together, and can contribute to good "chemistry." This scene had good chemistry.

 

MDEC 9 - Violet & Allie & Montana

Some say the MDEC series theme is creepy, but I’m enough of a perv to find it sexy, too. I’m also enough of a perv that in the three way one of older women being the step-mom adds an illicit spice to my enjoyment.

 

LS 27  -  Riley Davis with Melanie Monroe.

Young Riley sustained the reluctance so convincingly and for so long into this scene that it’s hard for me to believe that none of it was real. If it was pure acting, then this girl is a very good actor.

 

LS 29 - June Summers & Chloe Dash

June lusts for her sweet young ward Chloe and comes into the girl’s room in a skimpy negligee. She puts the moves on the reluctant, confused teen in a sophisticated but “won’t take no for an answer” manner. Chloe maintains that “out of body” mien throughout the entire scene, even as she’s being betrayed by her traitor body. Several times June asks if she likes the way it feels and the young girl’s answer is an embarrassed “I don’t know” or “it feels weird.” This is an awesome scene for those into this particular fantasy.

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MDEC 13 - Darryl Hannah, Lily Labeau and Proxy Paige - see next post.

 

 

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 On that Lez Psycho 2 - it could be that I am focused primarily on the reactions of the younger girls in these scenes, and take for granted the predatory lust of the older. It may be that the older gets her ya-yas more from the same psychological dynamic as me rather than pure slavering physical lust, and either source works for this pervy lezlover's fantasy. Whereas Anon's fantasy may require that he see the drool.

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MDEC 13 - Darryl Hannah, Lily Labeau and Proxy Paige - partially meets the criteria (see bold):

 

It’s the usual bizarre MDEC setup of two pairs of mother/daughters at an assignment in one pair’s home, with the twist that a friend of home-team daughter happens to drop by.

 

Darryl ends up in the bedroom with said daughter and friend, two similar-looking cute young blondes. The daughter and Darryl are eager, experienced and lustful, the visitor is a reluctant-and-somewhat-uncomfortable-but-not-unwilling first-timer. Darryl plays director, piling on the soft sensuality aspect at first (and overwhelmed by it herself), gradually advancing into raw sex at a comfortable and natural-feeling pace.

 

I’ve said about Darryl that she often reminds me of a 16 year old boy who’s just realized the answer from the cute girl he’s with is “yes” – he can’t believe his luck, and his head is about to explode from excitement.

 

Unlike that boy, although Darryl also comes quickly she just keeps on coming! In one passage here she has both young girls spread while alternately (and skillfully) licking one and fingering the other, moaning things like “two-pussies-and-I-can’t-decide-which-to-suck-I-wish-I-could-suck-both-at-once (blubba-blubba-slurp-slurp).” ("Blubba-blubba-slurp-slurp" = the sound as she dives into a pussy. )

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India Summer and Georgia Jones, Lesbian Seductions 26
Dyanna Lauren, Amiee Addison and Jessica Bankok, Lesbian Psychodramas 2.

Both feature the "evil" landlady, using back rent as a way to get the younger girls to have sex with them.
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semichmanusa wrote: "India Summer and Georgia Jones, Lesbian Seductions 26"

I liked that one, too.  It was one of the very few India Summer encounters where I thought she was actually good in the role of a predatory older woman.  The only silly part was that she tells Georgia that she's there to do the girl's mother, and only agrees to have sex with Georgia when she realizes that her mother is out.  That was crappy writing.

"Dyanna Lauren, Amiee Addison and Jessica Bankok, Lesbian Psychodramas 2."

I didn't care for that scene so much, semichmanusa.  Dyanna was supposed to be playing a predatory lesbian woman, but she never comes across as particularly attracted to either girl, and was instead content to simply order them to go down on one another.  That's just lame. 

"Both feature the "evil" landlady, using back rent as a way to get the younger girls to have sex with them."

I'll agree that it was an excellent overall idea, but was poorly executed by the director/writers at Girlfriends Films.  

 

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cheer yourselfs on guys this thread look like chat to me
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