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Posted 4/18/2012 11:34 PM
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Anon those sort of games are NOT fun. If that game happened in major league baseball, it would take about 9 hours to get finished



A fun baseball game is like a well pitched 4-3 affair with a few epic homeruns that goes by at a fast pace. High scoring games in baseball can be brutal to watch just because of length alone
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Posted 4/18/2012 11:56 PM


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Quote: Anon those sort of games are NOT fun. If that game happened in major league baseball, it would take about 9 hours to get finished A fun baseball game is like a well pitched 4-3 affair with a few ep...

A game like that would be an embrassment to all Involved.

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Posted 4/19/2012 10:27 AM


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brahmabull117 wrote: "Anon those sort of games are NOT fun. If that game happened in major league baseball, it would take about 9 hours to get finished"

robert0259 wrote: "A game like that would be an embrassment to all Involved."

OK, guys, fair enough!  The truth is, I'm NOT a baseball fan, and I DON'T like the kind of games that die-hard baseball fans love!

I once overheard a couple of die-hard fans talking about how they were at a ballpark sitting in the stands of a game that was deadlocked at 0-0 in the 7th-inning, and a couple came in and sat down in the seats right in front of them, and one of the newcomers remarked that: "It's still scoreless - we haven't missed anything!"  And the diehard baseball fans smirked at eachother, smugly noting how those two newcomers had missed a heck of a great pitcher's duel!  But I agreed with the newcomers.  Nobody had scored yet!  They hadn't missed a thing!

Die-hard soccer fans are the exact same way.  To them, a 0-0 encounter is fascinating.  I think it's BORING!  I remember how, back in '94, when the U.S.A. hosted the World Cup Soccer Tournament, and Brazil played Italy in the championship game.  I forced myself to watch it, as it was the "Superbowl" of the entire soccer-playing world!  At the end of regulation play and two overtime periods, the score was still deadlocked at 0-0!  BORING!

If the NFL ever had a Superbowl finish 0-0, they'd go nuts and immediately begin tinkering with the rules to fix what was clearly becoming a BORING game!  (Exceptions: weather-related interference/factors like a blizzard or extremely heavy rain!)  But baseball & soccer fans delight in how slow & boring their respective sports can be and often are!  I just can't get into either one!

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Posted 4/19/2012 2:07 PM


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Anon, now THIS is a game:

 



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Posted 4/19/2012 5:49 PM


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Wow, I do not remember ever hearing about that game. A 16 inning 1-0 final score with the game winning home run by Willie Mays in Candlestick Park in San Francisco. The most amazing thing of all is that both starters Marichal and Spahn pitched the entire game. In today's MLB, you would be lucky if you had a starting pitcher total up 16 innings for two starts.

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Posted 4/19/2012 6:14 PM


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robert0259 wrote: "Anon, now THIS is a game"

Lezfriend wrote: "Wow, I do not remember ever hearing about that game. A 16 inning 1-0 final score with the game winning home run by Willie Mays in Candlestick Park in San Francisco."

I suppose that if I walked in around the bottom of the 14th-inning I might have enjoyed being at that one.  I actually met Braves Hall of Famer Warren Spahn back in the 80's!  He and fellow Hall-of-Famer Johnny Sain were both outstanding pitchers for that organization; in fact, they were Milwaukee's ONLY good pitchers!  The saying went: "Spahn and Sain and pray for rain!"

   

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Posted 4/19/2012 10:00 PM


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Quote: Wow, I do not remember ever hearing about that game. A 16 inning 1-0 final score with the game winning home run by Willie Mays in Candlestick Park in San Francisco. The most amazing thi

They didn't officially count pitches then..but, it was about 222 for Marichal and 201 for Spahn...at the time Marichal was 25 and Spahn was 42...the Giants manager wanted to take Marichal out 4 times...each time he talked the mgr out of it.."if that 42 year old is staying in...so am I"

Spahn made his next regular start....a 9 inning complete game shutout....Spahn finished the season 23-7 with a 2.60 ERA...he didn't even place in the Cy Young voting...some guy named Koufax won it...go figure.

Another amazing number..the game took 4:10...todays Yankees-Red Sox 9 inning games take that long..if the score isn't too high.

In Marichal's next start he gave up 2 runs in 7 innings...usually good enough to win...unless your opponent happens to be Bob Gibson...who pitched a shutout.

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robert0259 wrote: "Another amazing number..the game took 4:10...todays Yankees-Red Sox 9 inning games take that long..if the score isn't too high."

I don't watch major league games, but I DO watch college games!  In an effort to shorten them, the NCAA has installed a 20-second clock that hurries up the pitcher when there are no runners on base.  Do the majors have such a clock?  If a college pitcher doesn't throw a pitch every twenty seconds, it's automatically recorded as a ball.  I like the fact that they've done something to hurry it up.

My LEAST favorite play, however, remains that silly little game played between the pitcher and the runner at first.  "Look at me... I'm off the bag..."  Seriously, I don't care which team is at bat, I just want to scream: "THROW THE DAMN PITCH!"  I wish they'd institute a rule where if the pitcher throws twice to first without catching the runner off base, the runner automatically goes to second!  At least SOFTBALL doesn't have that problem as the runners can't leave base until the ball is pitched.  (But softball is also boring, Robert!) 

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Quote: robert0259 wrote: " Another amazing number..the game took 4:10...todays Yankees-Red Sox 9 inning games take that long..if the score isn't too high ." I don't watch major league games, but I DO wa...

I think part of the problem is that it's so damn expensive to attend a MLB game..in a way you want the most bang for your buck...but, what plays well in person makes a lousy watch on TV. ..when you're talking about length of games.

When you mention things like a 20 second clock...you'd find it a hard sell on the baseball purists....as it would have a profound impact on the stats that drive so much of today's baseball.

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Posted 4/20/2012 11:48 PM
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Quote: brahmabull117 wrote: " Anon those sort of games are NOT fun. If that game happened in major league baseball, it would take about 9 hours to get finished " robert0259 wrote: " A game like that w...

The problem with soccer is there are way too many games that are 0-0. I'm a hardcore baseball fan and it would drive me nuts to have that many games be so incredibly low scoring. I can enjoy a great pitching duel with 2 studs who are striking out guys left and right but it would be hard to watch on a consistent basis


Keep in mind the average game in baseball is like a 5-4 score, there's way way more scoring in that sport than soccer. Baseball is a perfect balance - you have games where the score is 1-0, 5-4, 9-8, 11-5, etc... With that being said though, the best games are fast paced well pitched games with some decent offense and epic late moments. Like a 4-3 game where the opposition comes back to tie it in the 8th and the home team wins it in the bottom of the 9th


High scoring games sound great on paper, but there are so many at bats and pitches being thrown in those sorts of games where it can last as long as 4 or 5 hours. High scoring games are much more fun in football - I love watching teams just go up and down on each other and throw rockets all over the field

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