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Posted 7/11/2018 8:10 PM
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Quote: LovesWomenFrenching wrote: " Anon Is Losing Our Palin Debate... " I'm losing the " Palin debate ?" Are you STILL seriously arguing with me over John McCain's 2008 running-mate, LovesWomenFrenching...

Anon, you & others here, all miss the point (Deliberately, I think) that I've NEVER defended the behavior of Maxine Waters, but instead I've consistently said that the woman is an idiot.


I'm a liberal who is BRUTALLY honest in describing Maxine Waters, but those on the Right just can't seem to be as honest in discussing Palin's shortcomings.) (Or, even being able to admit that the woman has any shortcomings, at all.)


Since I'm a liberal who attacks Maxine Waters as being an embarrassment, my beef with you conservatives is that you never display that same sort of honesty, by simply owning up to the plainly obvious fact that Sarah Palin was deeply unsuited to be a VP nominee in 2008. Any reasonable person realizes that Sarah was so seriously hamstrung by her almost total lack of knowledge concerning national & world affairs, and also by her lack of awareness about how America's national government functions, that it was simply reckless for a Presidential campaign to select such a person for a position which makes that person holding it, next in line to become President, if the current President dies or becomes unable to fulfill the duties of being President.

It's simply stunning, and sad, to see people who seem to be smart enough to know better, insisting on claiming that Mrs Palin was even an "acceptable choice" for the VP slot, if the word "acceptable" is being used as it's commonly understood.

I feel embarrassed for any conservative who just can't admit that Steve Schmidt, after he got to know Palin well, was correct when he concluded that the idea of Palin (or someone just like her) being just an old man's life away from suddenly becoming President, is a very scary idea, indeed.

But there's little doubt that the stubborn defense which many folks mount for a person as unqualified as Mrs Palin being chosen for such a high position, LARGELY stems from the tendency of many conservatives to automatically FAVOR an idea, JUST because liberals have objections AGAINST it.
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Posted 7/12/2018 6:17 AM
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Last Week, On the Charlotte Stokely Thread (of all places) mgf Made A Statement That Seems To Show That He's My Only Fellow Trump Critic On LLV Forum



Yeah, it was an oversight of mine to have missed what mgf wrote at the bottom of a post he entered on the Charlotte Stokely thread, on July 2nd.

This is what mgf typed: "Trump policies of canceling everything, withdrawing from everything spending money on walls & building up his military in preference over increasing its minimum wage or feeding his own people will come back & bite him in his big arse, hard!"

Man, mgf sure dumped on the POTUS, in his post! But what's up with that, anyway?

Because even though I've had very few interactions with mgf, on this thread, compared to my many back & forths with other forum members, I seem to recall mgf as being a Trump supporter.

Hope that mgf might be kind enough to clear up that uncertainty for me. And at the same time, he might comment about why he would choose the Charlotte Stokely thread, of all places, as his venue for attacking Mr Trump. Certainly, the whole situation strikes me as being somewhat weird.

So mgf, if you get a chance, please do me a favor, and briefly explain exactly where YOU DO STAND.
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LovesWomenFrenching wrote: "Anon, you & others here, all miss the point (Deliberately, I think) that I've NEVER defended the behavior of Maxine Waters, but instead I've consistently said that the woman is an idiot."

You are understandably EMBARRASSED that Congresswoman Maxine Waters (D-CA) has become a respected spokesperson for your party, LovesWomenFrenching - which would also explain why you're currently attempting to DEFLECT attention away from her and onto John McCain's running-mate from ten-years ago. NOBODY in either party is complaining about Sarah Palin - and what is there even to complain about? The woman is a decent, conservative, Christian elected official who became the governor of Alaska without a powerful husband paving the way for her. YOU seemingly believe that women should ONLY get ahead by first marrying a powerful man, which I find to be somewhat antiquated.

"Since I'm a liberal who attacks Maxine Waters as being an embarrassment, my beef with you conservatives is that you never display that same sort of honesty, by simply owning up to the plainly obvious fact that Sarah Palin was deeply unsuited to be a VP nominee in 2008."

You "attack Maxine Waters as being an embarrassment?" Since when? Seriously, WHEN have you attacked her?

No, LovesWomenFrenching, you remind me of the media in the old, defunct Soviet Union. If there was a spike in crime in Moscow, the Russian newspapers would immediately respond with several stories focusing on violent crime in New York City. If the wheat harvest in the Ukraine was bad (again), Soviet news agencies would release numerous stories about Kansas farmers having to deal with drought or storms. And here TODAY, we have a prominent elected Democrat openly calling for the public to harrass conservatives at their homes, at their places of employment, and even at restaurants - with one man actually responding to her call for violence by confronting a teenager wearing a MAGA hat at a San Antonio Whataburger, throwing the kid's drink into his face and stealing his hat! And your outraged response is DEFLECTING attention away from this disgusting behavior by arguing that Sarah Palin & other Christians in America are stupid people.

"Any reasonable person realizes that Sarah was so seriously hamstrung by her almost total lack of knowledge concerning national & world affairs..."

Okay... was Walter Mondale a great V.P. pick in '76? How about Geraldine Ferraro in '84? Al Gore in '92? Joe Lieberman in 2000? John Edwards in '04? Joe Biden in '08? Mondale & Ferraro got pounded in the WORST-EVER electoral-college landslide defeat in American history when they ran as a team in 1984. I always thought that Al Gore was nothing more than a fat-fraud with all of his self-righteous evangelical preaching over global-warming, while Gore's running-mate in 2000 actually ENDORSED McCain-Palin in the '08 presidential campaign! John Edwards narrowly avoided PRISON with that post-election scandal involving he & his mistress, while Joe Biden was forced to drop out of the 1988 presidential race after charges of plaigiarism were brought against him. Joe also had an embarrassing history of fondling women in the White House. And yet you're claiming that Sarah Palin was a weak V.P. pick?

- You keep talking about Sarah Palin, LWF - anything beats continued attention on Maxine Waters and her band of radical loonies taking over your Democratic Party!
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Quote: LovesWomenFrenching wrote: " Anon, you & others here, all miss the point (Deliberately, I think) that I've NEVER defended the behavior of Maxine Waters, but instead I've consistently said that the wo...

Anon, you just said this about me: "YOU seemingly believe that women should ONLY get ahead by first marrying a powerful man, which I find to be somewhat antiquated."

Of course, NOWHERE on LLV Forum have I ever expressed that absurd belief, or have even given the slightest sign that I accept that obsolete concept.

And that's why neither you, nor anyone else, can point to a single thing that I've ever typed on this forum, which would provide any backing for your claim.

People often rightly object, when other folks put words in their mouths, which they never spoke.

Well Anon, it's unfortunate, that you sometimes resort to crediting a debate opponent as supposedly harboring beliefs or intentions in his mind, which aren't there, but that are actually things which you've invented, because it serves to make your own position seem stronger, if you portray your opponent as accepting crazy notions, that you, yourself, just made up.

It's sad Anon, if you aren't able to debate honestly without needing to resort to MAKING UP fictional beliefs, that you claim as being in the head of a debate rival. But I really shouldn't be too surprised that you do that, since you're a Trump supporter, and Donald's habit of MAKING UP THINGS about the beliefs or intentions of his political opponents, is one of Donald Trump's tendencies, that IMO, is one of the man's more objectionable traits. And my religious friends and relatives, would quickly point out that it's also a violation of one of the 10 Commandments, which concerns not bearing false witness against your neighbor.

But at least, your Trump-like behavior would surely bring a smile to the face of your man, Donald, because that old saying is really true: "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery." And as those who know Trump well, have said, one thing that really wins over Donald Trump, is subjecting his ego to flattery.


P.S- BTW, concerning the absurd idea of women needing to be married to powerful men, to get ahead, 2 of my favorite g/g performers, Riley Reid and Dani Daniels, certainly serve as very strong proof that the idea is bullshit, since they both got to the top of their profession, while being single women.
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LovesWomenFrenching wrote: "NOWHERE on LLV Forum have I ever expressed that absurd belief, or have even given the slightest sign that I accept that obsolete concept."

Here is the deal, LovesWomenFrenching - you actually boast in one sentence about attacking Democratic Party congresswoman Maxine Waters, while blasting former Alaska governor Sarah Palin non-stop as a stupid-Christian-conservative-woman in the six paragraphs that follow - am I right?

Meanwhile, you express nothing but the DEEPEST RESPECT for Hillary-"Benghazi"-Clinton and Michelle "I-was-never-proud-of-this-country-while-growing-up" Obama. And what is the major difference between Maxine/Sarah and Hillary/Michelle? ANSWER: Maxine & Sarah got there by themselves, whereas Hillary & Michelle got famous by marrying powerful men. You dismiss the former while respecting the latter. The only SINGLE women you seemingly respect are Riley Reid and Dani Daniels! A bit antiquated, at least in MY opinion.

"It's sad Anon, if you aren't able to debate honestly without needing to resort to MAKING UP fictional beliefs..."

You also tend to DEFLECT any attention away from bad news, just like the TASS & PRAVDA news agencies regularly did in the old Soviet Russia. If there is a story about a prominent Democratic Party congresswoman urging street-thugs to confront conservatives in public places, and one of them does exactly that, bullying & threatening a teenager at a Whataburger restaurant for wearing a MAGA hat, you will immediately ignore that act of violence to instead throw insults at a Christian-Republican woman, belittling her for not being a politically-progressive atheist (or a Muslim).

"I really shouldn't be too surprised that you do that, since you're a Trump supporter, and Donald's habit of MAKING UP THINGS..."

And is Donald Trump making up news about our booming economy, Lezfriend? When they point out that black unemployment numbers are at their lowest in history, is that not important? Was it better for poor Americans to be receiving food stamps, or would you prefer they actually find actual jobs?

- Donald Trump is doing what he promised he would do back in 2016, and some people don't like that - they would prefer seeing politicians tell their usual lies and do nothing.
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Trump continues to speak his mind first at NATO now in GB where he says what's on everyone's mind ( Germany is short changing the collection basket with contributions to its own survival ) and Prime Minister May hanging by a thread is a pebble in the shoe to the voters right to exit the EU.

Unlike the last administration that gave away the store to Iran of all places and continued to let North Korea nuke up at the GYM without so much as a peep from the 98 LB weaklings over seeing foreign policy circa 2008-16.

If the Palin debate has to continue can at least a picture of her looking all spiffy and attractive be placed in the table of contents, about the only part of interest now that she's retired and fighting with Sascha Baron Cohen that genius who makes Colbert look like Enrico Fermi for goodness sakes.
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Sylvester writes: "If the Palin debate has to continue..."

If you read what's being posted on this forum by our friend LovesWomenFrenching, Sylvester, you might believe that the BIG NEWS in America today focuses on former Alaska governor Sarah Palin, and that the Democratic Party is uninterested in our U.S. Supreme Court. Of course, the REALITY is just the opposite - the politically-progressive left is on the verge of hysteria right now over the upcoming Senate vote to approve Brett Kavanaugh. I found the following commentary by CNN contributor Scott Jennings on that network's web-site:

Democrats' clown show of outrage over Kavanaugh fools no one

President Donald Trump's nomination of eminently qualified, mainstream conservative Brett Kavanaugh to the US Supreme Court -- combined with the predictable Democratic outrage machine -- has put red state Democratic US senators in a political box: side with their constituents or with the clown show that is the modern American left.

Trump's prime-time announcement of Kavanaugh's nomination on Monday was beautifully played by the White House. The name did not leak, leaving liberal picketers to make protest signs for multiple possible nominees. This made clear that protesters couldn't have cared less about the personnel, just that Donald Trump would be signing the nomination papers.

The protesters then ran Shannon Bream of Fox News off the street as she attempted to broadcast in front of the Supreme Court. The liberal group "Women's March" slammed Trump's nominee in a press release that left the actual name of the nominee with "xx," an embarrassing prewritten screed that would have gone out no matter who Trump picked.

Shortly after the announcement, an editor for The Daily Beast tweeted an article with the message: "Forget abortion or same-sex marriage — contraception could be banned under Justice Kavanaugh." Within minutes of Trump's choice, the left-leaning media would have people running to the drugstore to hoard condoms and birth control pills like a Kentuckian stocking up on milk and bread at the first sign of snow flurries. The hysteria was in full bloom mere minutes after Trump's announcement.

Not to be outdone, liberal actor Ron Perlman tweeted an implication that Kavanaugh would plunge the United States into either "Medieval Values" or "Shariah Law." Former Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe took it a step further, tweeting that Kavanaugh's nomination will "threaten the lives of millions of Americans for decades to come." He did not address, however, how Americans who already died from tax cuts, (as one former Obama official threatened they would) or the United States pulling out of the Paris climate accords (a fatal mistake, as envisioned by a Vox writer), or the Obamacare repeal, (McAuliffe, once more) would perish again.

I kid, but apparently these Democrats, in all their hyperbole, do not.

You expect it from the more liberal corners of Hollywood and the Democratic Party, but NBC News joined the fray when reporters Leigh Ann Caldwell and Geoff Bennett tweeted Tuesday (and then Caldwell later deleted) an outrageous conspiracy theory that retiring Justice Anthony Kennedy and President Trump engaged "for months" in secret "negotiations" to rig the process for Kavanaugh, a former Kennedy clerk.

Their "reporting" then set off a series of alarmist left-wing outrage tweets, which garnered thousands of retweets, as Charles C.W. Cooke of the National Review pointed out, before corrective tweets from Caldwell landed as quietly as a church mouse. The tinfoil hats were out in force, as they have been since Kennedy announced his retirement. It is a near weekly occurrence during the Trump presidency; everyone sees the falsehood while few see the correction.

With the resistance in full meltdown, the people who really matter - U.S. senators - are now charged with evaluating Kavanaugh and rendering a decision on confirmation. Because Democrats foolishly shattered longstanding Senate traditions by weakening the Senate's filibuster power for judicial nominations in 2013, and then trying to filibuster Justice Neil Gorsuch in 2017, they are left to lie in a bed of irrelevance of their own making. As long as Republicans stick together, they can confirm Kavanaugh with a simple majority vote on the floor.

The Democratic senators to watch all hail from red states: Joe Manchin of West Virginia, Joe Donnelly of Indiana, Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota, and Claire McCaskill of Missouri. All are on the ballot this year, and all represent states Trump won easily in 2016. Their constituents, according to Republicans' internal polling, want Kavanaugh confirmed even as the left rages and demands resistance to all things - and nominees - born of Trump.

These Democrats are in quite a pickle. Three of them voted for Gorsuch in 2017 and Kavanaugh is as (or more) qualified and similarly conservative. Voting against Kavanaugh would signal to the folks back home that their votes are now controlled by the left-wing partisans described above — not a good look during a re-election campaign in states where Trump remains popular.

As long as Republican senators remain united, it is a safe bet Kavanaugh will get a handful of Democratic votes, making his lifetime appointment a bipartisan affair. For the red state Democrats, there's nothing to be gained from joining the loony left on this quixotic campaign, but there's much to lose by abandoning the desires of their center-right constituents who very much appreciate the President's qualified judicial appointments.


- The Democratic Party and their allies in the media look increasingly foolish as they sound their alarm & phony outrage over everything Trump accomplishes!
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Anon Keeps Lying About What I Write On LLV Forum, Even After My Last Post Proved That I'd Never Expressed A Belief That He Credited To Me


Man, some folks never learn, which could explain why they are Trump supporters.

Because even after my last post took Anon to task, for his false claim that I hold a certain ridiculous belief, following that response from me, a couple posts before what I'm writing now, there was Anon, again, still insisting on making another bullshit claim about me which was him saying: "Meanwhile, you express nothing but the DEEPEST RESPECT for Hillary-"Benghazi"-Clinton and Michelle "I-was-never-proud-of-this-country-while-growing-up" Obama."

Wow, you do the exact same type of lying that Trump constantly does, Anon!

Because anyone who has read all of the posts on this thread, knows that I've repeatedly said that the single BIGGEST REASON that candidate Trump was able to squeak through to his upset election victory, in 2016, was because he was lucky enough to be running against a candidate as weak as Hillary.

Multiple times I've pointed out here, that candidate Clinton was scoring a LOWER LEVEL of PUBLIC APPROVAL, for her personal traits, than survey takers had EVER seen with any other Democratic Presidential nominee in the more than 70 years that public approval surveys have measured the public's view of candidates.

So guys, when I repeatedly mentioned, in posts here, the relatively low opinion the public had of Clinton, compared to all of the previous Democrat Presidential candidates, was anyone (with the possible exception of Anon) stupid enough to think that I was describing Hillary as if I had the DEEPEST RESPECT for her? But that was the bullshit description that Anon wants folks to believe as being my opinion of Hillary Clinton.

And regarding Michelle Obama, while not recalling using the exact words "deepest respect" to describe my view of her, (though that's possible) I certainly do have respect for Mrs Obama, since she was a good role model as a First Lady who was a successful career woman, prior to entering the White House, and served as a very good example for young people, when living in the White House.

Now, as others have indicated, it's really about time to stop devoting any more energy here to debating the merits (or lack of) which are possessed by that quitter in Alaska who was too incompetent to even make it through 1 term as that state's governor. So after today, I'll limit myself to discussing topics which are more current than the unfortunate woman who Alaskans had only entrusted to have to manage a state containing so much empty space, and so few people, that in 2008, New York City alone, had 12 times as many people there, as were living in the entire state of Alaska.

However, Alaska's first governor TO QUIT, Mrs Palin, actually is relevant to Anon's mention of Michelle Obama, and the subject of respect. Because, to her credit, as First Lady, Mrs Obama led the "Let's Move!" public health campaign which encouraged people to get off their couches, and get exercise, and also, very importantly, to consume less sugar and fat, which are the main contributors to obesity. However, Palin made the idiotic mistake of attacking that program.

Alaska's governor-quitter, made a moronic criticism of Mrs Obama's admirable fight against obesity, the seriously overweight condition of many Americans, (particularly, the young) which even the Pentagon ranks as a serious national security threat, because so many Americans seeking to join the military are too heavy to meet the lowest military standard.

Anyhow, upon learning that the First Lady was advocating that young people put aside sugar filled soft drinks, like Coca Cola, in favor of far more healthy beverages, Sarah Palin responded with an attack against the First Lady, and her sensible suggestion. Palin said that Mrs Obama was going too far because she was trying to take away the freedom of young people to make their own beverage choices. Sure, Mrs Palin, and I suppose that if Mrs Obama, as First Lady, had devoted substantial time to advise young people to choose non-alcoholic beverages, instead of those containing alcohol, if they'd be driving after consuming the beverages, Alaska's failed governor would have been also attacking the First Lady for taking away young people's freedom of choice, in that case.


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LovesWomenFrenching wrote: "Anon Keeps Lying About What I Write On LLV Forum, Even After My Last Post Proved That I'd Never Expressed A Belief That He Credited To Me"

Oh, stop it, LovesWomenFrenching - you went off on an extended binge-attack against Sarah Palin for some unexplained reason, and I called you out on it - in NO WAY was I lying! You also made the spurious claim of writing post after post attacking Congresswoman Maxine Waters (D-CA), when nothing is further from the truth!

"Multiple times I've pointed out here, that candidate Clinton was scoring a LOWER LEVEL of PUBLIC APPROVAL, for her personal traits, than survey takers had EVER seen with any other Democratic Presidential nominee in the more than 70 years that public approval surveys have measured the public's view of candidates."

Yes, we pretty much ALL acknowledged here on this forum that Hillary Clinton was a horrible candidate, but she was also the BEST candidate that the Democratic Party HAD in 2016! President Obama said as much, calling Mrs. Clinton the best-prepared nominee his party ever put forth, even better prepared than himself!

And today's Democratic Party has since grown considerably WEAKER - so weak, in fact, that Hillary may try once again to win the nomination! There's really nobody in that collection of feeble nobodies capable of challenging her! The top four contenders would have to be old-man-Bernie (again), old-man-Biden, old-man-Al-Gore, and Elizabeth "Pocohontas" Warren. Trump would easily destroy ANY one of them in a general election!

"I certainly do have respect for Mrs Obama, since she was a good role model as a First Lady who was a successful career woman, prior to entering the White House..."

And... just like Hillary Clinton, Michelle Obama got ahead by marrying a powerful man to help herself get famous - which is an antiquated practice that the Democratic Party continues to adhere to, demanding that ambitious women first "hitch their wagons" to a powerful man to guarantee political success.

- Right now, the Democrats have NOBODY capable of challenging President Trump's 2020 re-election, just as they can't stop his current U.S. Supreme Court appointments!
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Quote: LovesWomenFrenching wrote: " Anon Keeps Lying About What I Write On LLV Forum, Even After My Last Post Proved That I'd Never Expressed A Belief That He Credited To Me " Oh, stop it, LovesWomenFrenchi...

Well Anon, that's some attempt you're making to change the subject away from the fact that you've been lying about what I write. Because this isn't about my many criticisms of Palin, which I'll never deny having made, because the quitter who is Alaska's failed governor, has certainly earned all of those criticisms.

But I simply can't allow you to use those criticisms of Palin as your cowardly attempt at diverting attention away from your lying about my writing on this thread, which included your false and over the top claim, that I'd supposedly written that women cannot get ahead unless they are married to powerful men.

Since I'm sure that my own support is every bit as strong as yours (and probably stronger) for women fully possessing the same rights men have, as well as females having the ability to be totally independent of males, if that's their wish, then it's quite offensive to me, that you made up your huge lie which claimed that I think the ladies need powerful male partners to succeed in life.

I even gave the example, on the last page, that my 2 favorite current g/g stars, Riley Reid and Dani Daniels, sure both got ahead, by making it to the top of their vocation, and both of them achieved that success as single women, so it's quite obvious that women can get ahead without a marriage partner, in America.

Anyhow Anon, instead of your cowardly attempts to divert attention away from it, you should just "man up", and admit the plain fact that you've been caught lying about what I've said on LLV Forum.

If our debate venue, instead of being an internet site almost totally populated by Trump supporters, had actually been us debating on a stage, making all of the same statements that we've made here, with objective moderators assessing severe penalties against debaters, for every one of the obviously false statements they got caught making, then Anon, your frequent falsehoods would have gotten you thrown off of that stage, a long time ago.
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