Getting way too personal there LWF.

Mods want us to be civil, but you can't seem to help yourself.

Perhaps they might be talking to you, I would hope so.

Henceforth, I will totally be ignoring you.

You add nothing of value or interest here.

Well, sometimes when someone goes out of his way to really play dumb, and pretend that he was not able to understand a point that was not at all complicated, as you did earlier, that really exhausts my patience.

But at least now I have the opportunity to say that when reading how you were faking being clueless about what I wrote when you mentioned its "verbiage", I knew then that you really weren't stupid but I was so annoyed at how you were playing dumb that I decided to take advantage of the situation by going ahead and running with it, as if I actually believed that you were as clueless as you were pretending to be.

I fully realize that when you do something like mention "verbiage" and Cliff Notes, that's simply your way of avoiding points I've made that a Trump supporter can have no good comeback for. And a perfect example of such a point is how the President is now lying about the GOP tax plan.
LovesWomenFrenching


"It is a rare thing indeed, to ever observe in nature, anything so beautiful, as the sight of 2 pretty women, with one engaged in slowly sucking on the tongue of the other."(mrb0775@gmail.com)

Well, sometimes when someone goes out of his way to really play dumb, and pretend that he was not able to understand a point that was not at all complicated, as you did earlier, that really exhausts my patience.

But at least now I have the opportunity to say that when reading how you were faking being clueless about what I wrote when you mentioned its "verbiage", I knew then that you really weren't stupid but I was so annoyed at how you were playing dumb that I decided to take advantage of the situation by going ahead and running with it, as if I actually believed that you were as clueless as you were pretending to be.

I fully realize that when you do something like mention "verbiage" and Cliff Notes, that's simply your way of avoiding points I've made that a Trump supporter can have no good comeback for. And a perfect example of such a point is how the President is now lying about the GOP tax plan.

Of course Trump supporters have an impossible task if they try to defend their President's deliberately false claim that the GOP tax plan would not benefit wealthy people like him, though the plan obviously calls for an Estate Tax repeal that would save Trump family members a sum of money so huge that it would be worth hundreds of times as much as any tax cut that the wealthy have ever received in America's history.

So, on this forum, whenever I mention facts like those concerning the Republican tax plan and how the President is misrepresenting it, I usually expect Trump supporters to stay away from such a difficult reality for them to face as the man who they support working at pulling such a fraud on Americans. I realize how embarrassing it could be for you guys to have to even think for one minute about what a conman and a fraud that your man is.

That's why people bringing up things like "verbiage" is just a convenient dodge for Trump people to use when they realize that they are suddenly faced with a case of Trump behavior that there's no possible, or even decent, defense for. And so nobody else on this thread wants to discuss Donald's tax plan scam. Everyone just acts as if I never brought up the subject in the first place.

Man, would I like to confront you guys on a debate stage, where a person can't avoid a subject that is brought up.

But debating here is very much like when I debate some of our Christian relatives who believe that all of the bible is true. Whenever I shoot down a tall tale like the Noah's Ark/worldwide flood myth by using the scientific and archaeological evidence that the story actually is a myth. As soon as I present the last part of my evidence, and shut my mouth, whatever nice Christian person who I'm debating will look at me as if I had just said nothing, and that person will quickly start talking about a different section of the bible.

Strange how people will often not treat debates like they actually are debates.
LovesWomenFrenching


"It is a rare thing indeed, to ever observe in nature, anything so beautiful, as the sight of 2 pretty women, with one engaged in slowly sucking on the tongue of the other."(mrb0775@gmail.com)

I can assure you that before he was President Trump's behavior toward some women was a lot worse than just boasting about being able to grab their pussies.

After the Access Hollywood tape had a number of Americans thinking that a man who would talk that way actually would grab women by their privates, just like the newspaper story exposing Weinstein, the spotlight of publicity being shone on an abuser gave a lot of women who Trump abused the courage to step forward, just as publicity about Weinstein is giving his victims the guts to step forward.

Of course I have no physical evidence of Trump's guilt, but in 2016 I watched interviews with some of Trump's accusers and a few of them, including a woman in her mid 50s who said she was 20 years younger when he assaulted her, really rang true. And this evening, just a few minutes ago, on TV, I just saw a 60ish looking woman who was describing Donald Trump being all over her, seeming like he had 6 arms, but she said that when he got a hand up her skirt, she was out of there.

But Anon, there's a big reason why the women would not dare to come forward until after the Access Hollywood tape when the first woman being seen stepping forward made other women know that they would not be alone. Before that, none of the women knew of the existence of any of the others.

People don't stop to think that any woman who Trump might have assaulted when Donald was a businessman, would be a woman painfully aware of the fact that if she said anything she would be going up against a billionaire whose arsenal of lawyers could destroy her life by having her portrayed as a mental case, or maybe as one of the worst sluts in New York City, and with his power and influence, Donald could make sure that she was fired from whatever job that she held.

No woman in her right mind would have wanted to turn her life into a hell by going up against Trump by herself, and Donald would have known that. People of great wealth in a position of power who know how to use that power can make people feel so small and insignificant that they know that their victims won't dare to risk the misery of having their lives turned completely upside down by making accusations. And if a woman told Donald she was going to report him for sticking his hands up her skirt, he could say that he would tell everyone that it was her who came onto him because she was hoping to get a good piece of change from a very wealthy man.

Nope, without the fact of a victim knowing that other women were willing to step forward to also accuse the same man of sexual assault who had also assaulted her, no lone woman was going to be unwise enough to stand up alone against a powerful man like Donald Trump.

Certainly Anon, you and I will never really know, but the fact that an extremely wealthy and famous man like Trump would brag to a TV host that he can get away with grabbing women by the pussy doesn't strike me as just made-up talk since a big shot like Trump actually seemed to be getting such a buzz out of discussing it, as if Donald was remembering how it was when he was doing it.

Yup if some incredible circumstance ever found Donald Trump under the influence of a genuine truth serum, and he had to answer the question "Have you ever thrust your fingers or penis into the vagina of a woman against her will?", the smart money would bet that Donald would answer YES to that question.
LovesWomenFrenching


"It is a rare thing indeed, to ever observe in nature, anything so beautiful, as the sight of 2 pretty women, with one engaged in slowly sucking on the tongue of the other."(mrb0775@gmail.com)

I would never be foolish enough to say that all of the bible is myth because some of it is history. But though, like many people, I used to believe that the New Testament books of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John were actually written by 4 of Christ's disciples, I later learned that even Christian scholars maintain that those 4 accounts of Christ's life were not written until 40 to 80 years after Jesus was gone. In ancient times people often wrote under assumed names and since the books were originally written in Greek, a language known by educated members of the upper class, the street people and fishermen who Jesus gathered around him would not have known how to write in Greek, and probably know little of any writing.

I brought all that up because there is agreement among scholars that the people who wrote the New Testament never met Jesus or personally witnessed any of his claimed miracles. That means that events like Jesus walking on water, feeding the multitude with a few loaves of bread and fishes, raising Lazarus from the dead, etc. were all basically rumors that were repeated orally for decades before being written down.

You may we aware of Dr Albert Schweitzer who was both one of the great humanitarians of the 20th Century, as a medical doctor in primitive Africa, and was also a Lutheran minister whose 1906 book "The Quest of the Historical Jesus" was considered such a standard in the field of theology that it was translated into 22 languages. But though he had been a religious man who became a doctor, when already a minister, in order to apply the philosophy of Jesus Christ to the healing of the sick in Africa, late in his life, Dr Schweitzer decided that Christ was neither divine, nor was he the son of God, because there are several passages in the bible where Christ specifically predicts, to those hearing him preach, that before all of those listening to him had drawn their last breaths on earth, he would have already returned to establish his kingdom on earth. Dr Schweitzer reasoned, correctly I think, that if Christ was divine he would not have falsely predicted in the bible that he would return during the 1st Century and create his kingdom on earth, an event which never happened.

Yeah, I'd have to agree with Nobel Peace Prize winner, Dr Albert Schweitzer, that though Jesus had a beautiful philosophy, he was nothing more than a man, and seemed to be a preacher that suffered some delusions of grandeur by thinking he was actually greater and more important than he was.

Also, it should be pointed out that the great Thomas Jefferson, a big admirer of Jesus, is famous for his Jefferson Bible which is basically the story of Christ's life from the New Testament, but with all of Christ's miracles left out, because Jefferson did not believe that any of those miracles actually occurred.

And with that, I must bid everyone a good night.
LovesWomenFrenching


"It is a rare thing indeed, to ever observe in nature, anything so beautiful, as the sight of 2 pretty women, with one engaged in slowly sucking on the tongue of the other."(mrb0775@gmail.com)