Welcome back Nica. Congratulations on winning the 2017 XBIZ Award for Trans Director of the Year.I will definitely read the article that you linked us to. Thanks.
Johnny, I can't read your tumbler post since I don't speak French, but if you would like some context about the "male gaze"--and I think this relates to Noelle's excellent response to the youtube video--it actually comes from academic film theory from the 1970s. It argues that Hollywood films are edited to synchronize the gaze of the male characters with that of the implied male audience, turning the female characters into objects (there is also a whole psychoanalytic part that need not detain us here). Actual academic film theory has moved way beyond this simplistic way of theorizing gender in film, but the concept of the "male gaze" still tends to get thrown around a lot when talking about lesbian representation in mainstream films like "The Handmaiden" (which I haven't seen).I don't think that "the male gaze" is a useful way to talk about most lesbian porn. As i said earlier, the theory of the male gaze depends upon a link between a male character in front of the camera and the male gaze of the audience. This is why the youtube video made by Ms. Norman used the clip from the News Sensations film in which the guy is watching the two girls make out on the couch. This does indeed suggest that any female pleasure represented in the scene is for the benefit of the guy watching. But to use this particular clip (which, if I had to guess, ends up as a threesome) to represent all lesbian porn is a huge stretch. None of the other clips shown from Filly and Sweetheart Video show men watching. The vast majority of lesbian porn doesn't have a single man in the entire movie! The trope of a guy watching hasn't been a fixture of lesbian porn since the 1990s, in large part to the efforts of forums like this. And when there is a stray scene with a guy watching (GFF's first Crime Stories movie comes to mind), then we all bitch about it. The other things that Ms Norman criticizes about lesbian porn, such as acrylic nails, fake breasts, or women who are obviously not into each other, are likewise exactly the kinds of things we complain about. The youtube video isn't a critique of all lesbian porn, it is a critique of bad lesbian porn!I am a guy, but I consider myself a card-carrying feminist and am dismayed when I see videos like this that hearken back to the old days in which feminists were against porn. This kind of argument is antiquated, as if she were unaware of all the developments in lesbian porn, including those made by actual lesbians or bisexual women. She would be much better served to make a video talking about the kind of porn that she does like(whether that be amateur, crash pad, whatever) rather than by lumping together very different sorts of lesbian porn and saying that it is all terrible. So thank you Noelle for your excellent piece in which you counteract these sorts of arguments.Edit: I should also say that the sober, thoughtful analysis of people like Noelle are exactly the way to counter the kinds of arguments found in the youtube video. I made the mistake of reading some of the comments for the youtube video and found the vast majority were snarky and simplistic rejections that don't speak to the author's actual points. I respect her opinions and am glad she brought up the important issue of sexist and homophobic harassment that many lesbians face from men. I just disagree that this harassment has anything to do with people watching movies from Filly Films or Sweetheart Video. But dismissing her argument out of hand is not a good way to convince her that the field of lesbian porn is a good deal more varied and more interesting than her video suggests. Nor is it a good way to convince more lesbians (or anyone) to broaden their horizons and give more kinds of porn a try.
Excellent points. But I think whether or not the woman behind the camera is a lesbian, there is already a kind of standardization of what constitutes a good and bad mainstream lesbian porn made for men, it is market like any other with its rules. Maybe she could implement some pinches of "realistic sex" in small doses and expect the results.I've see this only women should direct g/g porn even here. There is no factual argument to sustain it, I think people really don't believe in that, it is just included in the fantasy. The most important thing: The person behind the camera has to like g/g.
Very telling posts, to be sure.Other than the good folks at Girlsway, Nica is pretty much the only creative force left that seems to "get" g/g and its appeal these days.I would be very sad to see her leave the industry for good, but I certainly wouldn't want her to linger if doing so makes her unhappy. My honest feeling is that Nica, like most artists, enjoys the creative part of the business and would be happy continuing with that, but is frustrated by the "bean counting" side of things, as well as the attendant darkness that seems to plague everyone in the public eye (weird fans, uncooperative co-workers, hostile press).I get it and I'm sorry she's at this point. She's got a LOT to offer and it would be a shame to lose someone of her caliber. But in the end she has to think of her mental and physical health first. Here's hoping things turn around.