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A Lesbian Scene? NOT!
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Posted 2/13/2018 1:07 PM
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zebragirls.18.01.13.valentina.nappi.daizy.cooper.and.julie.kay

How not to film a Lesbian scene

1- Do not start the scene with Valentina asking Daizy and Julie: “Who fucks best – white guys or black guys?”

2- Even though Valentina (about a minute in) says that there wasn’t any black guys where she grew up, the same would, most likely, apply to black women and we could’ve started the scene there;

3- Daizy asks Valentina if she likes big black cocks and of course the answer is yes. I guess that’s why we needed the first bit – the question about fucking white or black guys. Then comes out a super-sized black dildo which was used to slap Valentin’s butt a couple of times and that’s it for the dildo!

4- The dialogue is inane. An insult to the viewer and not at all erotic.

5- We immediately go to Anilingus; no kissing, no licking, no erotic gazing; nothing – except for instant fake porn moans by Valentina.

6- They switch positions and do all the obligatory combinations in about 14 minutes. This is not erotica but bad porn produced on a factory line.

7- Next comes the black strap-ons. “Those are really big,” says Valentina. No emotion on her face – no fear, no nervousness, no excitement, nothing.

8- The sucking of the strap-ons. I’m just not gonna say anything here.

9- Valentina sucks the strap-on worn by Daizy while Julie fucks her with hers. Somewhere between point 8 and point 9, Julie has put a condom on her strap-on. But no condom for Daizy’s strap-on. Why? Did they not wash Julie’s from a previous shoot? Or, maybe I’m missing something?!!

10- The switch and Daizy is now fucking Valentina’s butt. It’s more exciting to watch paint dry.

11- Daizy: “Let’s DP this bitch.” said with no emotion or even sarcasm. Robots at work.

12- 30 minutes in comes the best part (unintentional) of the scene. Daizy gets off the bed walks around the front of the bed like she’s heading to the kitchen to wash dishes or ( here, you, the reader can fill in any boring ho-hum every day activity that you can think of and you will be able to imagine the look on Daizy’s face and see her body’s posture as she lumbers towards Valentina’s face to tell her in an oh so- bored-voice: “Clean your ass off my cock.”

13- How to make tribbing boring: Julie tribs Valentina while Daizy masturbates. The only indication of excitment is Valentina fake moaning (the same pitch and speed since the sex started) and Julie making the same hissing sound (like air leaking out of bicycle tire) throughout the scene. A few high-pitch moans later and the scene ends. Julie declares that it was awesome.

No it wasn’t. All three performers are beautiful, especially Julie and Daizy. Maybe someday when they become better actresses, they may be able to give us a better portrayal of lesbian erotica. Until then, all three women should stick to licking and fucking men.
The annoying thing here is that I thought I would see two strong black women take charge of a white woman. The story line could’ve run the gamut of many scenarios – from control and domination to curious and exploratory and anything in between. I would’ve been happy with any of it. But no! Move along. Nothing to see here. Very, very disappointing.

What idiot viewer is consuming this crap? I got taken! Who gets off on this? Not me. I don’t get it.
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Posted 2/13/2018 1:48 PM


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nbsy wrote: "The dialogue is inane. An insult to the viewer and not at all erotic."

Excellent points all around, nbsy! There are those here who will insist that horrible, un-erotic writing doesn't matter, but I disagree - I see it as a clear sign that the people behind the camera are talentless hacks who shouldn't be making girl/girl videos in the first place!

"... except for instant fake porn moans by Valentina."

And that's ANOTHER clear sign of weak, lame direction - anytime you've got the girls in a scene moaning really loudly, as if to show us that their scene MUST be really hot - because of all the loud yelling, of course - it's crap! Seriously, these writers/directors should NOT be involved in making lesbian videos!

"They switch positions and do all the obligatory combinations in about 14 minutes. This is not erotica but bad porn produced on a factory line."

That's also known as putting the girls through a laundry list of mechanical, formulaic activities - as only a newcomer, fresh out of film school could find erotic - and yet he (or she) was (no doubt) almost certainly hired to direct simply because he (or she) understood how to operate the camera and edit the finished product. No imagination or creativity whatsoever!

"The sucking of the strap-ons. I’m just not gonna say anything here."

So WHY do the major production houses allow it? - I believe that I KNOW the answer - it's because they hold us (their customers) in complete CONTEMPT! And yet there are those here on this very forum who will regularly defend this garbage - insisting that it doesn't matter so long as the girls are hot.

"Julie declares that it was awesome... no it wasn’t."

The ultimate goal in this instance is creating XXX-garbage-porn, and the two actresses are hardly to blame - it's the shysters working behind the camera that I hold responsible for knowingly churning out that kind of crap! And if a director/writer lacks the talent to come up with anything better then WHY were they ever given the job in the first place?

- I dearly love watching erotic girl/girl scenes in videos - but the people making them need to love them, as well - otherwise, what's the point?
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Posted 2/13/2018 1:51 PM
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Quote: zebragirls.18.01.13.valentina.nappi.daizy.cooper.and.julie.kayHow not to film a Lesbian scene1- Do not start the scene with Valentina asking Daizy and Julie: “Who fucks best – white guys or black guys...

"All three performers are beautiful, especially Julie and Daizy. Maybe someday when they become better actresses, they may be able to give us a better portrayal of lesbian erotica. Until then, all three women should stick to licking and fucking men."

Valentina is great! A rare relief for the non-PC fans like me, the ones who don't support tattoos short hair and all sorts of "empowerment" thing that denature the women. It can be true that she doesn't like girls, still she is able to do OK g/g scenes, which is enough for me, giving her rarely found attributes.

Perhaps you should blame the people behind the cameras instead of the girls.

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Quote: zebragirls.18.01.13.valentina.nappi.daizy.cooper.and.julie.kayHow not to film a Lesbian scene1- Do not start the scene with Valentina asking Daizy and Julie: “Who fucks best – white guys or black guys...

Hey "nbsy" , how is the rest of the site ?......or you just signed for that one scene alone ?

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Posted 2/13/2018 2:50 PM
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The title of the post is How not to film a Lesbian scene. The ladies bear some (very small) responsibility in that they were clearly not into the action. Even with bad direction, you can show some enthusiasm and delight being with your partner. There are many Girlfriends Films scenes with not so great direction but the performers such as Shyla or Prinzzess will almost invariably rescue the scene.

Much of the blame (98%, I would say) lies with the Mystery director/writer and the production company. I am curious, though, about the costumer base here. Who is consuming this really, really bad porn?

I have nothing against Valentina's looks. I thought that she looked great (hair, make-up, tattoos, etc.) Her looks were not the problem. I'm not demanding Meryl Streep level acting - I'm asking that the women try to do a little better than what I saw in this scene.

Also there's another important point here. Anon thinks the production houses hold us (their customers) in complete CONTEMPT! It's hard to disagree that a lot of production houses do that but I think the problem is even more fundamental than that.

I think this all goes right back to the production process as it has evolved through the years. Technology - both filming and uploading scenes to sites to be quickly consumed - has reduced the quality of porn scenes. As Anon said " un-erotic writing doesn't matter"; it gets in the way of production time. The faster the scene into the hands of the consumer (off the shelf - so to speak), the faster that you will realize your profit. And the circuit starts over. the faster you complete the the more you realize.

Not to mention that production houses are also competing with piracy - which gives the producers a small window to actually make money before the scene is available to download for free from various torrent sites.

It is true that some companies , such as Girlsway and VivThomas - even if they don't mostly cater to Anon's and my preferable scene-configuration - they are trying to maintain quality and I am grateful to them; but I think it's only a matter of time before they succumb to these technological forces.

In short, crap is here and crap is coming and crap will kill the good.

To Runaway (I like your Putin), I only got that one scene but I'll try another one and let you know.
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Valentina Nappi once worked as an Italian language instructor and one time paid a visit to her young client Melissa Moore and not a word was spoken of cocks of any color. It was strictly bidness and after pleasantries were exchanged some dynamite goodness gracious lesbian orgasms were had.
I would recommend this particular glimpse into her body of work.
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nbsy is ON POINT definitely! Zebragirls surprisingly has been around A LONG time. The fact that its lasted as long as it has with those jackasses at Dogfart running the show is dumbfounding.

These guys who run that company and site care about their HARDCORE product and couldn't care less about producing quality girl-girl porn.

I've been a member of Zebra-girls in the past only because I am desperate for TRUE interracial couplings of girls - and in rare instances, there's a "decent" scene. I esepcially like that the white performer is almost always the submissive one to a dark skinned, curvaceous black woman.

Kleio Valentin with another curvy black performer was featured a few years back and I actually liked that scene alot. (call me crazy...)

That site aside - LesbianX - though definitely more gonzo and not featuring the fabulous "dialogue" that Zebragirls does - is just as bad.

LesbianX, despite my high hopes given that it was in the hands of a woman director (Mason), is absolute garbage - especially scenes released in the past few months.

I know with her scenes there's absolutely no ambience, no dialogue or storyline - fine - but I didn't expect this...the hand-held dildos shoved into all orifices, the dildo sucking, the phony orgasmic yelling and the typical I -do-you-you-do-me sex. Not to mention, the pairings are usually terrible.

No contrast between the performers is a HUGE pet peeve of mine - and the recurring appearances of performers (new and old) who are of ZERO appeal to me (I won't mention names like the Cherie Devilles, Mindi Minks, Alexis Fawxs, Casey Calverts...shall I continue...?)

For a preview of what Mason has to offer - check out the trailer for the upcoming Scarlett Sage scene (and I LOVE Scarlett).

What a way to promote the scene! The majority of the trailer shows one of the girls sticking the fucking hand held toy in the other's anus while she screams unconvincingly. WOW! How erotic! Thank you Mason !

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Zebragirls 17 09 23 Cali Carter Jezabel Vessir and Skyler Nicole

Cali Carter is a pain in the ass roommate. She borrows Jezabel and Skyler’s cloth without asking; she leaves her tampons everywhere; she clogs the toilet;

Even worse, Cali is in the process of stealing Skyler’s boyfriend.

What are the girls to do? Ding, Ding, Ding. It’s tiiiiiiiime to rumble – lesbian style.

Cali is stripped naked as the ladies describe her list of infractions. For each item, a spank on a cheek is given. So far, so good!

Jezabel tells Cali that they’re going to fuck her now since Cali loves black cock so much (this must be a running theme on Zebra Girls?).

More spanking and breast smothering is introduced. I must say that the spanking is not mean-spirited but purposeful. I like it.

It is also important to note that Skyler Nicole is an alumna of Dana Vespoli’s school of Lesbian Beauties: All Black Beauties 15, and 19 (I liked her in both). So I think we can thank the invisible hand of The Vespoli. All praise to Dana!

Skyler was also in Love’s Kitty production of My sweet Black Ruby Fruit – not to be confused with the Broadway production - where the best part of her scene is watching her ride a kid’s bicycle with her beautiful bottom spilling over the edges of the seat. Yum!

Cali Carter has a few lesbian scenes under her belt also. But I haven’t seen any of them. And Jezabel has only done a couple of other lesbian scenes – also not seen by me.

Cali’s wet pussy betrays her. She likes being punished by her roomies. To punish her further, Skyler proceeds to lick her pussy and ass. Porn logic is sometimes good logic. I approve.

And so does Cali; she declares her hatred and love of all that’s happening to her.

Jezabel’s wonderful and natural breasts are unfurled and Cali immediately worships them.

Skyler, now naked, continues to feast of Cali’s pussy and ass. Yummy, yum, yum.

Cali is forced (mildly) to lick Skyler’s pussy. She’s moaning (a little too much) to indicate that she likes it.

Jezabel licks Cali’s breasts and lightly smacks her wet pussy.

Here I note that Jezabel has so far looked twice at the camera and Skyler once in what I could only guess to be instructions from the director. Unfortunate it takes the viewer out of the scene. Oh well!

To continue.

Skyler goes to get some toys and Jezabel sits on Cali’s face to continue the “punishment”.

Skyler comes back with a giant double-headed black dildo and a vibrator. So, now, our beautiful punishers are one step removed from our punishee. Maybe they’ll surprise us and this will be a good development.

Spoiler alert: nope. It sucks - the scene, that is.

Cali is force-fed the dildo forcing her to make gagging sounds but she’s smiling so that means that she loves it.

Skyler is using the vibrator on Cali’s clit. Suddenly, she looks at the camera (I can imagine the director saying to her to lick Cali’s pussy) and, surprise, she licks Cali’s pussy.

The dildo is wiggled into Cali’s pussy looking like an eel squirming into its coral crevasse. Yuk!

The scene quickly degenerates to porny trash levels. Will it remain there? We still have 12 minutes remaining.

Back to force feeding the dildo down Cali’s throat. She loves it – her toes are curled and that means that she loves it. Just in case you didn’t get it, “She loves it,” Jezabel tells us. I guess she loved it. Get it?

Jezabel and Skyler leave Cali to masturbate while they go get the other big surprise. Oh no they didn’t? Yes they did. They’ve been strapped-on.

Time to suck strap-on. This goes on for 2 minutes. Precisely.

Then, strap-on in pussy and strap-on in mouth.

The ladies switch position and they repeat the same, as above.

“Now, it’s time to make us cum,” declares Skyler.

How, you ask? By all three ladies sitting side-by-side on the couch and mutually masturbating each other. Sexy, it ain’t.

A bit of kissing at the end; And Cali declares that if the ladies continue to fuck her like this, she will be a better roommate.

So the difference here is that the ladies were a bit more enthusiastic and therefore the scene was a lot better than the Valentina, Daisy and Julie scene. Experience counts.

But the horrible and intrusive direction plus the terrible use of rubber/latex toys, which was porny and very unimaginative, ensured that this scene was ruined.

You want to see better use of dildos, then check out Strapless Dildo.com where the likes of Bree Haze and Merry Pie scorch the screen.

I think that I won’t bother with this site anymore.

I hope that this helped, Runaway.
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Makes me feel sorry for the girls, because it's hard to imagine them not feeling "dirty" after being involved in something like that.

As we know, at it's best g/g erotica is the very opposite of "dirty" - it's sublime. We can all think of fave scenes by fave girls and studios, where you had to think the girls realized they had just produced something very special to be proud of forever.

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Posted 2/13/2018 7:20 PM
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Thanks for the recommendation Sylvester. I will try to get the Melissa Moore, Valentina Nappi scene.

I, too, tried LesbianX; The Return of The Challenge is quite right in the assessment of that site. I wish I knew about your experience with ZebraGirls, you would've saved me from wasting my time.

I also like Scarlett Sage but I'm betting that she's quickly going to defect to boy/girl porn never to be seen by the likes of us again. Hope I'm wrong.

Even your method, Aristide - turning down the volume and using my imagination - couldn't save the ZebraGirls scenes. So, I suspect that you're right in that the ladies did not enjoy being involved in these scenes.

All this is too depressing. So, I am going to revisit Mother-Daughter Exchange Club 10 where amazing Darryl Hannah convinces lovely brooke Lee Adams that she needs to be devoured. Not to mention the wonderful Persia Monir munching adorable Jessi Palmer (lost to boy/girl sex); Now is the winter of our discontent. Made glorious summer by older bush munching smaller bush. Bush, Bush-Bush, Bush!
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