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Posted 9/30/2017 10:18 PM


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I probably know the answer before it's asked but what would you rather see prior to sex, acting or activity? Do you prefer to see your favourite performers acting in a story of your choosing, the popular storylines at the moment being incest, office, prison and so on. Or would you like to see performers being themselves and doing activities they enjoy. Things like going to the beach, shopping...

I'm on the side of activity and am aware I'm in the minority. But maybe I'm not alone. I've viewed enough story based porn to know that most of it doesn't work. In fact much of it is embarrassingly bad. Anyway, what do you think?
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Posted 10/1/2017 5:45 AM


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pmsc wrote: "Do you prefer to see your favourite performers acting in a story of your choosing, the popular storylines at the moment being incest, office, prison and so on. Or would you like to see performers being themselves and doing activities they enjoy. Things like going to the beach, shopping..."

I believe that a quality erotic-intro can make an otherwise mediocre lesbian scene a whole lot HOTTER, just as a really bland intro (including no set-up whatsoever) can diminish an otherwise really HOT lezzie-encounter on video!

Seriously, I still fondly re-call several so-so lezzie scenes that had incredibly erotic storylines (e.g. check out some of those "Bound Heat" films directed by Lloyd A. Simandl), just as there are several otherwise-sizzling sex-scenes that I was disappointed with because the director made no attempt whatsoever to set-them-up - instead just showing two girls going at it because they've been signaled to do so from somebody off camera!

"I'm on the side of activity and am aware I'm in the minority. But maybe I'm not alone. I've viewed enough story based porn to know that most of it doesn't work. In fact much of it is embarrassingly bad. Anyway, what do you think?"

The words "embarrassingly bad" describes a LOT of porn, pmsc - in fact, there are some companies that churn-out nothing BUT embarrassingly bad porn, but because they're making money they don't care. The bottom line is, there is NO REASON why a lesbian-love-scene can't have BOTH a quality erotic-intro AND the girls engaging in activity that's enjoyable to watch! But you NEED talented people working BEHIND the camera - talented people making a serious EFFORT - in order to accomplish this!

- We shouldn't be forced to choose between 'acting or activity' - as consumers, we should be demanding BOTH - and those companies that do that should get our business!
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Posted 10/1/2017 6:00 AM


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Scripted and directed scenes never work. It's too obvious and awkward, and these ladies are not experienced actresses anyway. Since we know in advance that the scene will eventually and always lead to sex, these scripted and made up scenarios are silly and unnecessary. You simply cannot script and direct an erotic act and make it hot. Only the two women can do that.

On the other hand, a broad story or story arc can give some substance to the relationship between the women. A deep and romantic relationship can be very erotic and hot, but making some women appear as unwilling playthings to other women is not.

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Posted 10/1/2017 6:08 AM


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Quote: Scripted and directed scenes never work. It's too obvious and awkward, and these ladies are not experienced actresses anyway. Since we know in advance that the scene will eventually and always ...

I agree...99% of porn performers can't pull off acting anyway...you can't have a 5 minute set-up and expect it to work...the entire movie has to be built around the sex...I say leave the acting to the professionals who can pull it off.

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Posted 10/1/2017 6:39 AM


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"Scripted and directed scenes never work. It's too obvious and awkward, and these ladies are not experienced actresses anyway."

That's ridiculous, and a smear on those who (albeit rarely) have made the effort and succeeded.

If the court please, I refer the jury to a goodly number of the earlier GFF Lesbian Seduction scenes. Go all the way back and review Lola, Karin and Holly on LS 1, for starters - case closed.

 

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Posted 10/1/2017 8:46 AM
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Girl/Girl scenes, imo, are almost always better with a story line encompassing them. And story line scenes, by definition, require characters/personalities, which requires acting.

There are a number of adult performers who can play any number of personalities. Off the top of my head I would name, Julia Ann, Samantha Ryan, Bree Daniels, Jo (from Viv Thomas) as examples of ladies who have believably played numerous types of characters over the years.

There is a long list, imo, of adult performers who bring with them to their scenes, a personality profile, which can fit into the story line scene they are in. The most basic profile is probably submissive and aggressive, but there are, it seems to me, almost endless variations and nuances within those two broad categories.

From the recent past, some nuanced personality types were: Cindy Craves typically played the physically aggressive predatory older woman. Lisa (from Viv Thomas) played the more regal, but no less predatory older woman. Lena Nicole typically played the alluring seductive predator. Faye Reagan, meanwhile, played the naive innocent who would fall victim to, and then lavish in, the attentions of these predatory women. While Evie Delatosso was the young girl, who already had the sinful urges and was trying stay pure, but was weak, and inevitably succumbed to the beautiful predatory women whose attention she attracted.

To assume, for example, that an adult performer, who usually plays a submissive, is not ACTING that part in her scenes, strikes me as a little silly. At any given time, when that performer is playing that submissive, she may be feeling any range of emotions that are anything but "submissive". So if you find her performances believable/natural/arousing as that submissive, then it seems to me that you are acknowledging--whether you want to admit it or not--that she is doing a good job of acting.

Good movie acting/writing--as I used to argue with Anon about endlessly--does not necessarily require dialog. In movies, the camera can take the place of much of what dialog has to do for the stage. By focusing on the performers, their movement, their facial expressions, how they are acting and reacting at the moment, movies can bypass a lot of expository dialog. If the adult performers feels natural and believable when you are watching them, then it seems to me that you are witnessing decent acting.

Are they Meryl Streep caliber? No, of course not. But then, they are not being asked to be. They are not being asked to perform Hamlet's soliloquy. They are being asked to set up a story based porn scene, where a believable reason can be set up for why two women are about to have sex, rather than simply showing two anonymous girls having sex on a couch.



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Posted 10/1/2017 9:52 AM
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Quote: I probably know the answer before it's asked but what would you rather see prior to sex, acting or activity? Do you prefer to see your favourite performers acting in a story of your choosing, the popu...

" I've viewed enough story based porn to know that most of it doesn't work. In fact much of it is embarrassingly bad. Anyway, what do you think?"

Agree, but it is more likely due to the lack of talent of people behind the cameras rather than lack of acting skills of the performers. I think we still are focusing too much on our preferences, whether it is a specific fetish/scenario, subject matter, realism; and forgetting to demand quality. It is very comfortable to the producers.

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Posted 10/1/2017 10:35 AM
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I guess we disagree
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Quote: Girl/Girl scenes, imo, are almost always better with a story line encompassing them. And story line scenes, by definition, require characters/personalities, which requires acting.There are a number of...

I've seen Adriana Chechik do the naive girl twice for Webyoung's "Naked Yoga" and "Lady Lessons: The Player #1." Lily Carter's also been kinda innocent and virginal, too.

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Posted 10/1/2017 10:51 AM


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Quote: I probably know the answer before it's asked but what would you rather see prior to sex, acting or activity? Do you prefer to see your favourite performers acting in a story of your choosing, the popu...

I've been for tropical vacation or Arab harem stuff, generally a situation where the girls are just soaking up so much relaxation that they want to have some wild lesbian sex with no concern for others seeing them. Doesn't matter if they're already lovers, or longtime friends deciding to go to the next level, or total DTF strangers, but I do say that I'd like some sisters.

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